1: Em is seeking clarity. Tully moves overseas.

In today’s episode… Why we changed the podcast from a book club. Why Em has become a co-sleeper (not by choice), and how she’s juggling full time work + parenting. T feels done with Australia, and makes a few big changes. Why is Em learning Norwegian with George (plus a clip of George practicing). Why T picks up surfing, self-care, and the guitar- as an antidote to the negatives of parenting life. Em has a tough family holiday and questions whether full-time travel is for her. 

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